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In article <2kbtut$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>,

>>I've had the experience of having everything stop for periods of from seconds
>>to 10s of seconds while using Trumpet Winsock, but I thought that was caused
>>by the SLIP server.
>>

>NO!  It is likely NOT your server!  <VERY> brief (tenths to hundreths of
>seconds) is acceptable; SLIP lines at 14.4 typically have ~230ms of
>turnaround time delay.  But anything significantly longer is either a
>severely overloaded Ethernet on the other end or something broken.

Well I borrowed a copy of a well-known commercial software and tried that for
a day to see if there were differences and there weren't any.

>I am now running another stack, which will remain nameless until I get done
>with my evaluation.    At which point you'll all hear about it.  My first
>impression -- THIS IS WONDERFUL STUFF -- CONSIDER NOTHING ELSE!  It has
>three huge wins - (1) it works, (2) it works, (3) it works.

I'm looking forward to that.

Pete

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Subject: Re: Announcement: Bake-Off '94

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Announcement: Bake-Off '94
>Date: 25 Feb 94 01:48:14 GMT


>                             ANNOUNCEMENT

>          The 1994 TCP/IP, Windows Sockets and PPP Bake-Off

>Microsoft would like to follow the successful example provided last year
>by FTP, TGV and InterCon Systems by hosting the 1994 TCP/IP bake-off.
>Implementors of TCP/IP, Windows Sockets applications, and PPP products are
>invited to come together in Redmond, WA to detect (and hopefully resolve)
>any interoperability problems between products.  The "bake-off" is held in
>the spirit of multivendor cooperation with the goal of delivering
>customers the finest possible range of interoperable internetworking
>products.

>The bake-off is specifically an engineering gathering.  Developers and
>architects should feel free to bring both present and beta implementations
>of products to test reliability and interoperability in mixed internet
>environments.  Most implementors will choose to bring development and
>debugging systems along so that fixes can be made and tested in real time.
>The formal results of the interoperability testing will not be made public
>- the intent of this event is solely to enhance the quality and
>interoperability of the participants' products.

>We plan to hold this event the week of April 18-22 - this is two weeks
>following the Seattle IETF meeting, and two weeks before Spring Interop.
>Once we receive feedback, we will draft and circulate a preliminary agenda
>to the appropriate contact persons.  We're hoping that we can expand the
>scope of this annual event to include PPP and Windows Sockets testing as
>well.  Our current plan is to cover the following areas and protocols:

>Base TCP/IP                     (ARP,ICMP,IP,UDP,TCP)
>NetBIOS over TCP/IP             (1001/1002)
>DHCP                            (1533/1534/1541/1542)
>Common IP Applications          (FTP,Telnet,DNS, etc...)
>TCP/IP printing                 (1179)
>SLIP, PPP                       (both TCP/IP and IPX/SPX)
>Windows Sockets API testing     (WSAT)
>Windows Sockets applications    (interoperability matrix)
>Windows Sockets 2.0 discussion

>If you are interested please complete and return the following
>questionaire to [e-mail].  Once we receive the initial
>feedback from you, we will begin finalizing the schedule and logistics and
>communicate all details to the contact persons.

>Name of organization:
>Contact person:
>Contact e-mail:
>Contact phone:
>Will you be attending (Yes/No/Maybe):
>Number of engineers attending:
>What hardware will you be bringing:
>What protocols are you interested in testing:
>Special requirements:
>Additional comments:

>We're looking forward to hearing your comments and ideas on this year's
>bake-off.  Thanks for your interest and help in making this event
>successful.

>_______________________________________________________________
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>  "On the Internet, nobody knows you're running Windows NT"

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

In article <2kk39a$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:

>>   One further note:
>>
>>   The Chameleon stuff I have here from the book does not, as far as I can
>>   determine, do dial-on-demand.
>>
>>   Then again, TRUMPET WINSOCK internal SLIP claimed to support it but it
>>   didn't work right (launch a client and it dials, but the client immediately
>>   bitches about being unable to resolve a hostname and you have to start over
>>   anyway).
>>
>>What did you do, forget to fill in the domain and name server slots in the
>>Setup option?  Tsk tsk...

>Reading?  What's that?

>Note that the client connects the <second> time.  No, the problem is that
>the call to resolve the name is returning before the line comes up, and
>its coming back "no answer".

>This is true for at least Trumpet and WinQVT.  I learned quickly to tell it
>to connect (opening it does the trick).  On the other hand, you have to
>click "CONNECT" on the Chameleon stuff.  Big deal.  If you get knocked off
>you click the box again.  No effect on your sessions as long as a keepalive
>doesn't nail you.  In fact, if you do lose the line it'll come up and ask
>if you want to reconnect.

I'm not sure what you mean by dial-on-demand. In both Trumpet Winsock and the
Chameleon I borrowed, you have to launch a program and then do a little
clicking to get it to dial and then log you in. After that, you invoke the
E-mail or news reader or ftp or WinMosaic or whatever. ??

Pete

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>  The subject says it all. I'm not familiar with IRC.
>
>  Pointers to explanations or a brief descritpion would be real nice.

>From the IRC FAQ I got at rtfm.mit.edu (the repository for most
of the FAQ's you might think to look for and many you might not):

        IRC stands for "Internet Relay Chat". It was originally
  written by Jarkko Oikarinen ([e-mail]) in 1988. Since
  starting in Finland, it has been used in over 60 countries spanning
  the globe.  It was designed as a replacement for the "talk" program
  but has become much much more than that. IRC is a multi-user chat
  system, where people convene on "channels" (a virtual place, usually
  with a topic of conversation) to talk in groups, or privately. IRC is
  constantly evolving, so the way you expect things to work one week may
  not be the way they work the next. Read the MOTD (message of the day)
  every time you use IRC to keep up on any new happenings or server
  updates.
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